Tribe.net. Local Connections indie-go http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#5c7d3057-cc04-445d-9664-72c583a5054a 2006-11-12T11:27:20Z 2006-11-12T11:25:11Z

"Imagine, if you will, a group of strong, wise, powerful dominatrixes, intermeshed with every human system, able to predict consequence and behavior with uncanny quickness; imagine beings many orders of complexity MORE intelligent than humans can imagine being, beings whose entire purpose in existence is stewardship and guardianship and the steerage of life towards the optimal good. These are the kind of beings who would impose population controls on humans wisely and humanely. " This really sounds like the "Bene Gesserits" in Frank Herbert's Dune and the "Elementals" in the Chronicles of Riddick. I'm curious as to where these ideas originated from? And why in both these cases, the beings are feminine in nature?

indie-go 2006-11-12T11:25:11Z Gary http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#a77d8dda-1639-45ab-8edf-52c86161a4fa 2006-03-14T18:16:08Z 2006-03-14T18:16:08Z

I've never actually watched the 4400... I'll definitely check it out now, however.

Gary 2006-03-14T18:16:08Z Michael David http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#0a04d633-c299-4962-94fa-ee9a473cd901 2006-03-14T11:40:07Z 2006-03-14T11:40:07Z

Yeah I love the 4400 and never really made the now obvious connection to transhumanism... I cant wait till a new season so I can watch it from that perspective.

Michael David 2006-03-14T11:40:07Z Gary http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#e4cf65de-bf62-46c9-a433-c49a7244d7c3 2006-03-04T11:05:53Z 2006-03-04T11:05:53Z

Hi Paul, I'm new here, so please forgive my possible ignorance. Would you consider "Indigo Children" to be Transhuman? And what are your views on this alleged phenomenon? Great explanation, btw. Be well, Gary.

Gary 2006-03-04T11:05:53Z Lynne http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#abb108d6-6fdd-4ead-8a02-b18aa4639897 2005-08-24T14:31:25Z 2005-08-24T14:31:25Z

I`m going to have to print this, take it away & digest. It sounds fscinating indeed! I know you like films, are they all SF based? If not have you seen,`Assassination of Richard Nixon` with Sean Penn? Excellent, excellent, worth a watch! My recommendation for the week, well so far! (wink)

Lynne 2005-08-24T14:31:25Z Kanch http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#fcefd3bf-57e1-4410-916a-216dd1a7a982 2005-08-24T14:25:47Z 2005-08-24T14:25:47Z

Hi Lynne, apologies for the gobbledegook in advance. Unless you read a lot of science fiction most of these ideas will be new, because text SF is about a decade behind visual SF. A transhuman is the lead-up to a Singularity which in turn creates a thing called "posthuman". It's a transitional entity; simply that. A Singularity is a bit more diffucult to describe. Depending on whether it is a strong or weak version Singularity, would give rise to posthuman forms that are god-like (which I personally find dodgy, even psychopathic perhaps) or to posthuman forms that are stewards and guardians of human systems (the notion I strongly favor and prefer), much like the modern notion of Gaia. Imagine, if you will, a group of strong, wise, powerful dominatrixes, intermeshed with every human system, able to predict consequence and behavior with uncanny quickness; imagine beings many orders of complexity MORE intelligent than humans can imagine being, beings whose entire purpose in existence is stewardship and guardianship and the steerage of life towards the optimal good. These are the kind of beings who would impose population controls on humans wisely and humanely. Problem is, in order for this kind of singularity to occur, we need transhumans about to design the things! And THAT is what a transhuman is... by definition a transitional form towards a Singularity. Their function is to disrupt. They are described in veiled forms through superheroes, and in less veiled forms now through the TV show "The 4400", which gives a rather strong version of transhumanism as mutation imposed from the future backwards. The version of transhumanism I prefer is a choice one makes to become a living bridge into the future. It is a deliberate conscious thing for me. But that's just my take on it. I like to imagine transhumanists try to minimise the disruption their presence causes the world by compassion... but I can dream on there! In another century perhaps. Peace, Paul Bard.

Kanch 2005-08-24T14:25:47Z Lynne http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#73c5036a-cb08-4677-ace1-ce289fe4aee6 2005-08-24T14:05:34Z 2005-08-24T14:05:34Z

By the way Paul, whats a transhuman??

Lynne 2005-08-24T14:05:34Z Lynne http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#1fd8f7db-4dad-46bd-a086-65703ad8c43b 2005-08-24T14:04:08Z 2005-08-24T14:04:08Z

True, got to be!

Lynne 2005-08-24T14:04:08Z Kanch http://betterhumans.tribe.net/thread/739d7bfd-b7d8-4459-94b8-e0dd86660a8a#f2e93c4d-a1e6-48ea-a654-5cbaa4f2d087 2005-08-20T04:59:48Z 2005-08-20T04:59:48Z

Question: How Many Transhumans Does It Take To Change A Lightbulb? Answer: Three: One to invent the better lightbulb, one to invent the better room to change it into, and a third to handle the inevitable violent backlash of the pre-transhumans frightened by all the improvements. True or false? Warm rgds, Paul Bard.

Kanch 2005-08-20T04:59:48Z